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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ ßíâ 29, 2017 10:27&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  Åñëè! îíè çàïðîñÿò, òî îòïðàâÿò äîêóìåíòû, ðåçóëüòàòû äèàãíîñòèêè è ò.ä.  íà Àëòóôüåâñêîå øîññå (Òîåòà Ðóñ), òå èì äàäóò îòâåò: Ãàðàíòèéíûé ýòî ñëó÷àé èëè íåò èëè êàêóþ ýêñïåðòèçó ïðîâåñòè, ÷òîáû ýòî îïðåäåëèòü. Âñå ðåøàåòñÿ èíäèâèäóàëüíî, óâÿçûâàåòñÿ ê êîíêðåòíîé Ïðåòåíçèèè è ðåçóëüòàòàì äèàãíîñòèêè, ÷òî êîíêðåòíî ñëîìàëîñü, ëîÿëüíîñòè êëèåíòà è ò.ä.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Íåò êðàòêîãî îòâåòà: Äà èëè Íåò íà òàêèå ñëîæíûå âîïðîñû áåç êîíêðåòèêè!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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PS: Íåò òàêîãî ïîíÿòèÿ: ñíÿòü ñ Ãàðàíòèè, ýòî ôîëüêëîð)))&lt;br /&gt;
Â òå÷åíèè Ãàðàíòèéíîãî ñðîêà íåèñïðàâíîñòü ÷àñòåé è óçëîâ, óêàçàííûõ â Ãàðàíòèéíûõ îáÿçàòåëüñòâàõ, ìîãóò ïðèçíàòü Ãàðàíòèéíûì ñëó÷àåì è ïðîâåñòè Ãàðàíòèéíûé ðåìîíò à ìîãóò ïðèçíàòü íå Ãàðàíòèéíûì ñëó÷àåì.</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ ßíâ 29, 2017 10:27</pubDate>
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                    <title>Re: Ãàðàíòèÿ</title>
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                  Àâòîð: &lt;a href='http://club-lexus.ru/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=27086'&gt;CEO_FON_Rus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 22:40&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;xm721 ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Ìíå íè ðàçó íå îòêàçàëè â ãàðàíòèè, äàæå ñ ó÷åòîì òîãî ÷òî ÿ ó ÎÄ íå îáñëóæèâàëñÿ. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Çàäàë òîò æå âîïðîñ â âåòêå ó äèëåðîâ è îò  Èçìàéëîâî ïîëó÷èë îòâåò, ÷òî ãèïîòåòè÷åñêè îíè ìîãóò ïîòðåáîâàòü îò ìåíÿ âñå, îò çàêàç-íàðÿäîâ äî ñåðòèôèêàòà òîãî òåõöåíòðà, ãäå î÷åðåäíîå ÒÎ ïðîéäåíî (íåäèëåðñêîãî åñåñíî), ïîïðîñèë ðàçüÿñíèòü, ×ÒÎ îíè áóäóò äåëàòü, ïîëó÷èâ âñå ýòî  - îòêàæóò (îñíîâàíèÿ) èëè âîïðîñ áóäåò çàêðûò.....</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 22:40</pubDate>
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                    <title>Re: Ãàðàíòèÿ</title>
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                  Àâòîð: &lt;a href='http://club-lexus.ru/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=95383'&gt;akkord&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 16:56&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;xm721 ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Òàê ÷òî äëÿ ñîáëþäåíèÿ ãàðàíòèè íå îáÿçàòåëüíî îáñëóæèâàòüñÿ ó ÎÄ, íèêòî ñ ãàðàíòèè íå ñíèìåò!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Íàêîíåö òî!! Òîëüêî äî ìíîãèõ âëàäåëüöåâ ýòî ñ òðóäîì äîõîäèò. Ñëîâî îôèöèàëüíûé äèëåð íà íèõ äåéñòâóåò, êàê ãèïíîç!!</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 16:56</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 15:43&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  Êóïèë íîâûé LX570 ó ÎÄ íè ðàçó íå îáñëóæèâàë åãî ó ÎÄ, âñå ÒÎ äåëàë â Òîëåêñå, ïå÷àòè Òîëåêñå ñòàâèë â ñåðâèñíóþ êíèæêó, èñïîëüçîâàë òîëüêî îðèãèíàëüíûå çàï÷àñòè, à âñå âîïðîñû ïî ãàðàíòèè ðåøàë ó ÎÄ. Ìíå íè ðàçó íå îòêàçàëè â ãàðàíòèè, äàæå ñ ó÷åòîì òîãî ÷òî ÿ ó ÎÄ íå îáñëóæèâàëñÿ.&lt;br /&gt;
Ïî ãàðàíòèè ïîìåíÿë:&lt;br /&gt;
Ïàíåëü ïðèáîðîâ&lt;br /&gt;
Êëàïàí ïðîäóâêè êàòàëèçàòîðîâ&lt;br /&gt;
Ïðîêëàäêè ïëàìåííûõ êðûøåê&lt;br /&gt;
Ëÿìáäà çîíä&lt;br /&gt;
Äàò÷èê äàâëåíèÿ â êîëåñå&lt;br /&gt;
Òàê ÷òî äëÿ ñîáëþäåíèÿ ãàðàíòèè íå îáÿçàòåëüíî îáñëóæèâàòüñÿ ó ÎÄ, íèêòî ñ ãàðàíòèè íå ñíèìåò!</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 15:43</pubDate>
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                  Àâòîð: &lt;a href='http://club-lexus.ru/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=109105'&gt;Dima008&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 00:15&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  ß â ñâî¸ âðåìÿ ÐÀÔ 4 ãîäîâàëûé ïîêóïàë ñ ïðîáåãîì îêîëî 40000,íà í¸ì âîîáùå íå îäíî ÒÎ íå áûëî ïðîéäåíî.Òåì íå ìåíåå Òîéîòà ïî ãàðàíòèè áåç âîïðîñîâ âñ¸ äåëàëà.Íå äóìàþ ÷òî ó íèõ ñ Ëåêñóñîì ãàðàíòèéíàÿ ïîëèòèêà ðàçíàÿ.Ñòóïèöó òî÷íî ïîìíþ ìåíÿëè,åù¸ ÷òî-òî ïî ïîäâåñêå.Ïðàâäà ýòî 10 ãîä áûë,ìîæåò ÷òî ïîìåíÿëîñü ñåé÷àñ.</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ñá ßíâ 28, 2017 00:15</pubDate>
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                  Àâòîð: &lt;a href='http://club-lexus.ru/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=27086'&gt;CEO_FON_Rus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ïò ßíâ 27, 2017 23:17&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;flashLAV ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Ýòî ÿ ê òîìó, ÷òî ïîñòîÿííîå îáñëóæèâàíèå ó ÎÄ íå ãàðàíòèðóåò, ÷òî âñå ðåìîíòû áóäóò ãàðàíòèéíûìè è íàîáîðîò.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;ìíå âîò âñåãäà ñëûøàëîñü, ÷òî ãàðàíòèÿ ñîõðàíÿåòñÿ òîëüêî ïðè îáñëóãå ó îôèöèàëîâ, ïîòîìó âñå ñâîè ëåêñû ÿ â òå÷åíèå ãàðàíòèéíîãî ñðîêà îáñëóæèâàë òîëüêî ó íèõ........ïîòîì - ÿñíî, íå ó íèõ)&lt;br /&gt;
íî ùàñ ñìîòðþ àâòî, íàøåë âðîäå àïïàðàò - âñå 3 ÒÎ ó äèëåðà, íî áîëüøîå - íàïèñàë âûøå, ãäå.&lt;br /&gt;
ïðè÷åì ó ýòèõ ðåáÿò íà çàêàç íàðÿäå íàïèñàíî, ÒÎÅÒÀ êðóïíûìè áóêâàìè è åùå çíàê ðîñòåñòà)&lt;br /&gt;
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âîò è âîçíèê âîïðîñ</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ïò ßíâ 27, 2017 23:17</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ïò ßíâ 27, 2017 22:14&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  Ãàðàíòèåé ïîòðåáèòåëüñêèé ïðåäìåò îáåñïå÷èâàåò ïðîèçâîäèòåëü, ò.å.  Toyota. &lt;br /&gt;
Ãàðàíòèÿ åñòü âñåãäà è îíà íå ìîæåò áûòü îòîçâàíà äî îêîí÷àíèÿ îãëàø¸ííîãî ñðîêà.&lt;br /&gt;
Ãàðàíòèéíûå îáÿçàòåëüñòâà Toyota âûïîëíÿåò ÷åðåç ñåòü ÎÄ.&lt;br /&gt;
Âî âðåìÿ äåéñòâóþùåé Ãàðàíòèè âëàäåëåö âïðàâå îáðàùàòüñÿ ê ÎÄ äëÿ ïîëó÷åíèÿ Ãàðàíòèéíîãî îáñëóæèâàíèÿ èëè ðåìîíòà.&lt;br /&gt;
ÎÄ îïðåäåëÿåò, ïîïàäàåò ëè çàïðîñ âëàäåëüöà ïîä Ãàðïíòèéíûå îáÿçàòåëüñòâ è åñëè Äà, òî âûïîëíÿåò Ãàðàíòèéííîå îáñëóæèâàíèå èëè ðåìîíò.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ýòî ñóõèì ÿçûêîì, òåïåðü íà ïðèìåðå: &lt;br /&gt;
íîâûé àâòîìîáèëü îáñëóæèâàëñÿ âñå âðåìÿ íå ó ÎÄ è âäðóã ïåðåñòàë ðàáîòàòü ðàäèîïðè¸ìíèê. Åñëè íåò ñëåäîâ âíåøíåãî âìåøàòåëüñòâà, òî  ñ áîëüøîå äîëåé âåðîÿòíîñòè ñëó÷àé áóäåò ïðèçíàí Ãàðàíòèéíûì.&lt;br /&gt;
Íîâûé àâòîìîáèëü îáñëóæèâàëñÿ âñå âðåìÿ íå ó ÎÄ è âäðóã &quot;ñòóêàíóë&quot; äâèãàòåëü. Ñ áîëüøîé äîëåé âåðîÿòíîñòè ÎÄ ïðèçíàåò ýòî ñëó÷àé íå ãàðàíòèéíûì, òàê êàê ó íåãî íåò íèêàêîé óâåðåííîñòè: âîâðåìÿ ëè ìåíÿëè ìàñëî, ïðàâèëüíîå ëè ìàñëî çàëèâàëè è ò.ä.&lt;br /&gt;
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Â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå, ÎÄ äîëæåí ïîäòâåðäèòü ñâîè äåéñòâèÿ çàêëþ÷åíèåì Ýêñïåðòà, Âëàäåëåö àâòî, â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü, ìîæåò ïðåäñòàâèòü çàêëþ÷åíèÿ äðóãîãî Ýêñïåðòà, äàëüøå-â ñóä è ò.ä.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ýòî ÿ ê òîìó, ÷òî ïîñòîÿííîå îáñëóæèâàíèå ó ÎÄ íå ãàðàíòèðóåò, ÷òî âñå ðåìîíòû áóäóò ãàðàíòèéíûìè è íàîáîðîò. Êîíå÷íî, ëîÿëüíîñòü êëèåíòà áóäåò îöåíåíà (ýòî åñëè âñå îáñëóæèâàíèÿ áûëè ó ÎÄ, òî åñòü ñëó÷àè, êîãäà äàæå ïîñëå îêîí÷àíèÿ ñðîêà Ãàðàíòèè Òîåòà øëà íà âñòðå÷ó Êëèåíòó)</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ïò ßíâ 27, 2017 22:14</pubDate>
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                  Àâòîð: &lt;a href='http://club-lexus.ru/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=27086'&gt;CEO_FON_Rus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ïò ßíâ 27, 2017 19:02&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  Êëóáíè, êòî çíàåò, ïîäñêàæèòå, &lt;br /&gt;
ñîõðàíÿåòñÿ ëè ãàðàíòèéíîå îáñëóæèâàíèå íà à/ì 2014 ãâ, â ñëó÷àå, åñëè 3 ÒÎ áûëè ó îôèöèàëîâ, à 4 ÒÎ â ÑÒÎÀ &quot;Àëüôà-Ìîòîð Ãðóï&quot; (íåîôèöèàë, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíèìàþ)</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ïò ßíâ 27, 2017 19:02</pubDate>
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