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                  Äîáàâëåíî: ×ò Äåê 08, 2011 07:49&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;Öèòàòà:&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;À ÷òî æèâÿ â Ðèãå åñòü íåîáõîäèìîñòü ïîêóïàòü øèïîâàííóþ ðåçèíó ,íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ ó âàñ çèìà íå áîëüøå äâóõ ìåñÿöåâ. Íå òî ÷òî ó íàñ â Ñèáèðè,5 ìåñÿöåâ çèìà. &lt;br /&gt;
 Íà Continental Conti 4x4 IceContact øèïîàíûõ óìíåÿ æåíà åçäèëà ïðàâäà íà R15 íèêàêèõ íàðåêàíèé íå áûëî. &lt;br /&gt;
 ß ëè÷íî åçæó íà Bridgestone Blizzak DM-Z3 áåç øèïîâ âïîëíå âñå óñòðàèâàåò.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Èëè ó íàñ â ßêóòèè, 9 ìåñ.çèìà&lt;img src=&quot;https://st.club-lexus.ru/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                    <pubDate>×ò Äåê 08, 2011 07:49</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 21:28&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  ÿ âêàòèëñÿ íà Õàêêå 5îé íà ð18 245-40 ïðèýòîì ÿ ÓÂÅÐÅÍ(îïûò âîæäåíèÿ íåñìîòðÿ íà þíûé âîçðàñò ïðèëè÷íûé ïî÷òè ïîëìèëëèîíà) - ÷òî íà Õàêêå Ð ÑÓÂ ÿ áû îñòàíîâèëñÿ - àñôàëüòèê</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 21:28</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 19:59&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;kop9 ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
íå ïîìíþ...â 90õ áûëî...ðèñóíîê íà ÑÍÅÆÎÊ ïîõîæ.&lt;br /&gt;
.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Íó òî÷íî , ñíåæèíêà - àöêàÿ øòóêà äëÿ àñôàëüòà  &lt;img src=&quot;https://st.club-lexus.ru/smiles/ag.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Amd Green&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; , íî òåõíèêà ïîñëå íåå äàëåêî øàãíóëà  &lt;img src=&quot;https://st.club-lexus.ru/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 19:59</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 19:29&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;zdorovij ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;ýò ÷òî çà ðåçèíà &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;íå ïîìíþ...â 90õ áûëî...ðèñóíîê íà ÑÍÅÆÎÊ ïîõîæ.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Ìîæåò ìîäåðàòîðû íàì ãîëîñèëêó ñäåëàþò&lt;/span&gt; èíòåðåñíî ñêîëüêî íàðîäó íà øèïàõ,ñêîëüêî íà ëèïå åçäèò..</description>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 19:17&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;kop9 ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;à øèïîâàí áûë ìåòëîé(ýòî êîãäà â êàæäîå äîñòóïíîå ìåñòî ñàäèòñÿ øèï),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;ýò  ÷òî çà ðåçèíà , ó ìåíÿ áûëà òàêàÿ ðåçèíà ñ îøèïîâêîé â êàæäîå ñâîáîäíîå ìåñòî , íî ýòî áûëà ÑÍÅÆÈÍÊÀ äóáîâàÿ ìîñêâè÷åâñêàÿ ñíåæèíêà  &lt;img src=&quot;https://st.club-lexus.ru/smiles/ag.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Amd Green&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;  &lt;img src=&quot;https://st.club-lexus.ru/smiles/ag.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Amd Green&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;  &lt;img src=&quot;https://st.club-lexus.ru/smiles/ag.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Amd Green&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;  åçäèë ÿ íà íåé  íà êîðîëêå öåëûé ñåçîí , êàëåþ è ñóãðîáû ðåçàëà íå øîëîõíóâøèñü , ïî óêàòàííîìó ñíåãó òîðìîçèëà ñíîñíî , íî ïî àñôàëüòó áûëî ïîäîáíî êîíüêàì íà ëüäó , ÍÎ ýòîæ âñåñåçîíêà ñîâäåïîâñêàÿ ,</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 19:17</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 18:54&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;ALhomer ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;èíòåðåñíî ãäå òàêîå ìåñòî ÷òî øèïû íå ïîìîãëè à &quot;ëèïó÷êà&quot; òî÷íî ñðàáîòàëà áû.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Áûë ó ìåíÿ ìåðåí...âûïàë ïåðâûé ñíåã îäåë øèïîâàíóþ ðåçèíó,à øèïîâàí áûë ìåòëîé(ýòî êîãäà â êàæäîå äîñòóïíîå ìåñòî ñàäèòñÿ øèï),äíÿ ÷åðåç òðè ñíåã íà÷àë òàÿòü à ò.ê â íàøèõ ãîðîäàõ òåïëîòðàññû îáû÷íî ïðîõîäÿò ïîä àâòîäîðîãàìè ñíåã òàì åùå áûñòðåå òàåò...ñâåòîôîð ,ñòàðòóþ èäó ñ íàáîðîì ñêîðîñòè,òóò èç-çà àâòîáóñà âûñêàêèâàåò òèîòêà, ïðèøëîñü ìíå åå íà êàïîòå ìåòðîâ 10 ïðîêàòèòü.&lt;br /&gt;
Ãàåö êîòîðûé ìåðèë òîðìîçíîé ïóòü...ãðèò à ÷òî òàêîé äëèííûé...ïîäõîäèò ê ìàøèíå...ààà òàê ó òåáÿ øèïû,òîãäà âñå ïîíÿòíî.&lt;br /&gt;
Åùå ðàç ïîâòîðþñü,øèï õîðîø â ñâîèõ óñëîâèÿõ ò.å ëåä. Ïî ãîðîäó,ïðè ìîåé íåñïåøíîé ìàíåðå åçäû,äëÿ ìåíÿ ëèïû ïðåäîñòàòî÷íî.</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 18:54</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 18:16&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  È ñ ýòèì ñîãëàñåí. ÿ î äðóãîì âî ïåðâûõ -- ïî ìîåìó âñå æå íà øèïàõ ãîðàçäî áîëüøå øàíñîâ îñòàòüñÿ íà äîðîãå çèìîé, à âî âòîðûõ -- â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ ñëèøêîì ìíîãî âñÿêîé ôèãíè ïðîäàþò êîòîðóþ âûäàþò çà &quot;èííîâàöèè&quot;  &quot;íîâûå òåõíîëîãèè&quot; ïî ñóòè íè÷åãî íå ìåíÿþùèå, íàïðèìåð êàê êîìïàíèÿ ÐÈÁÎÊ ñî ñâîèìè êðîññîâêàìè &quot;èçè òîí&quot; êîòîðûå ÿêîáû ñïîñîáñòâóþò ñòðîéíîñòè ôèãóðû ó æåíùèí è âîîáùå îäåë è êîíåö ëèøíèì êèëîãðàììàì. Çà ýòó ðåêëàìó &quot;Ðèáîê&quot; â ÑØÀ çàïëàòèëà îãðîìíûé øòðàô êàê íå ñîîòâåòñòâóþùóþ äåéñòâèòåëüíîñòè èëè òîò æå àñïèðèí, äà ìíîãî ÷åãî. Òàê è ñ &quot;ëèïó÷êàìè&quot; ê ÷åìó ìîæåò ëèïíóòü êîëåñî êîòîðîå êàòèòñÿ ïî äîðîãå, çà ñ÷åò ðèñóíêà ïðîòåêòîðà èìåòü áîëüøåå ñöåïëåíèå äà, íî íå ëèïíóòü æå. Äà è øóìíî áûëî áû íà òàêîé ðåçèíå åçäèòü èç çà ïîñòîÿííûõ ÷ìîêàþùèõ çâóêîâ.</description>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 17:05&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;ALhomer ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;âî ìíîãîì ñîãëàñåí, íî ìíå õâàòèëî îäíîé íåóäà÷íîé ïîåçäêè ÷òî áû çàáûòü ÷òî çèìíÿÿ ðåçèíà áûâàåò íå øèïîâàííàÿ (ëó÷øå ïåðåñòðàõîâàòüñÿ ÷åì ïîòîì æàëåòü)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Ó êàæäîãî ñâîÿ ïðàâäà, íî ïîìíþ çèìó 2009 - åäó íà ïîëíîïðèâîäå â ïîäìîñêîâüå íà õàêêàïåëèòå 5(øèï), íà óëèöå +2 è äîæäü, ÷åðåç ìèíóò 15 ñòàíîâèòñÿ -2 è âñå ìàøèíû ñáàâëÿþò..áàâëÿþò..ñáàâëÿþò.. è îâò ìû âñå åäåì áóêâàëüíî 15 êì-÷ è áîëåå òîãî ïîíèìàåì ÷òî çà äîðîãó íè äåðæèòñÿ íèêòî - íå âàæíî êàêîé ïðèâîä, êàêàÿ ðåçèíà è øèïû èëè íåò - òàê è åõàëè 30 êì çà ãîðîä íàâåðíî ÷àñà 1.5</description>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 15:12&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;ALhomer ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;pazl ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;ALhomer ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;èíòåðåñíî ãäå òàêîå ìåñòî ÷òî øèïû íå ïîìîãëè à &quot;ëèïó÷êà&quot; òî÷íî ñðàáîòàëà áû.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;íè÷åãî èíòåðåñíîãî, åñòü òàêîé ãîðîä Ìîñêâà, òàê âîò òàì ñî ñíåãîì-òî íåî÷åíü, äÿäÿ Þðà, à òåïåðü è äÿäÿ Ñåáÿ èñïðàâíî ïîëèâàþò äîðîãè õèìî÷êîé, ïîêðûòèå áûëî íàèòðâèàëüíåéøåå - àñôàëüò íàçâàåòñÿ, êàê è 95 ïðîöåíòîâ îñòàëüíîãî ïîêðûòèÿ âñþ çèìó â Ìîñêâå, ÿ æå Âàñ íå ïðèçûâàþ ïîñòóïàòü, êàê ÿ ó ìåíÿ åòñü ñâîé îïûò è ÿ ïîíèìàþ êàêóþ ìàøèíó è ãäå è â êàèêèõ óñëîâèÿõ ìíå ðïèäåòñÿ ýêñïëóàòèðîâàòü - åñëè áû ÿ åçäèë òðàíçèòîì Ìîñêâà-Óôà ïî 3 ðàçà â ìåñÿö - âûáîð áû áûë ñîâñåì äðóãèì - äóìàþ ëèïó÷êà+öåïè, à òàê îò Êðûëàòñêîãî íà Áåëîðóññêóþ åçäèòü è ðàç â íåäåëþ äî ãèïåðìàðêåòà - ïîïðîáóþ âñåñåçîíêó ïîêà..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;âî ìíîãîì ñîãëàñåí, íî ìíå õâàòèëî îäíîé  íåóäà÷íîé ïîåçäêè ÷òî áû çàáûòü ÷òî çèìíÿÿ ðåçèíà áûâàåò íå øèïîâàííàÿ (ëó÷øå ïåðåñòðàõîâàòüñÿ ÷åì ïîòîì æàëåòü)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Íåêîòîðûì õâàòàåò îäíîãî òîðìîæåíèÿ  &lt;img src=&quot;https://st.club-lexus.ru/smiles/ai.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Amd Surprised&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 15:12</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 13:04&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;pazl ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;ALhomer ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;èíòåðåñíî ãäå òàêîå ìåñòî ÷òî øèïû íå ïîìîãëè à &quot;ëèïó÷êà&quot; òî÷íî ñðàáîòàëà áû.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;íè÷åãî èíòåðåñíîãî, åñòü òàêîé ãîðîä Ìîñêâà, òàê âîò òàì ñî ñíåãîì-òî íåî÷åíü, äÿäÿ Þðà, à òåïåðü è äÿäÿ Ñåáÿ èñïðàâíî ïîëèâàþò äîðîãè õèìî÷êîé, ïîêðûòèå áûëî íàèòðâèàëüíåéøåå - àñôàëüò íàçâàåòñÿ, êàê è 95 ïðîöåíòîâ îñòàëüíîãî ïîêðûòèÿ âñþ çèìó â Ìîñêâå, ÿ æå Âàñ íå ïðèçûâàþ ïîñòóïàòü, êàê ÿ ó ìåíÿ åòñü ñâîé îïûò è ÿ ïîíèìàþ êàêóþ ìàøèíó è ãäå è â êàèêèõ óñëîâèÿõ ìíå ðïèäåòñÿ ýêñïëóàòèðîâàòü - åñëè áû ÿ åçäèë òðàíçèòîì Ìîñêâà-Óôà ïî 3 ðàçà â ìåñÿö - âûáîð áû áûë ñîâñåì äðóãèì - äóìàþ ëèïó÷êà+öåïè, à òàê îò Êðûëàòñêîãî íà Áåëîðóññêóþ åçäèòü è ðàç â íåäåëþ äî ãèïåðìàðêåòà - ïîïðîáóþ âñåñåçîíêó ïîêà..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;âî ìíîãîì ñîãëàñåí, íî ìíå õâàòèëî îäíîé  íåóäà÷íîé ïîåçäêè ÷òî áû çàáûòü ÷òî çèìíÿÿ ðåçèíà áûâàåò íå øèïîâàííàÿ (ëó÷øå ïåðåñòðàõîâàòüñÿ ÷åì ïîòîì æàëåòü)</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 13:04</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 12:21&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;ALhomer ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;èíòåðåñíî ãäå òàêîå ìåñòî ÷òî øèïû íå ïîìîãëè à &quot;ëèïó÷êà&quot; òî÷íî ñðàáîòàëà áû.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;íè÷åãî èíòåðåñíîãî, åñòü òàêîé ãîðîä Ìîñêâà, òàê âîò òàì ñî ñíåãîì-òî íåî÷åíü, äÿäÿ Þðà, à òåïåðü è äÿäÿ Ñåáÿ èñïðàâíî ïîëèâàþò äîðîãè õèìî÷êîé, ïîêðûòèå áûëî íàèòðâèàëüíåéøåå - àñôàëüò íàçâàåòñÿ, êàê è 95 ïðîöåíòîâ îñòàëüíîãî ïîêðûòèÿ âñþ çèìó â Ìîñêâå, ÿ æå Âàñ íå ïðèçûâàþ ïîñòóïàòü, êàê ÿ ó ìåíÿ åòñü ñâîé îïûò è ÿ ïîíèìàþ êàêóþ ìàøèíó è ãäå è â êàèêèõ óñëîâèÿõ ìíå ðïèäåòñÿ ýêñïëóàòèðîâàòü - åñëè áû ÿ åçäèë òðàíçèòîì Ìîñêâà-Óôà ïî 3 ðàçà â ìåñÿö - âûáîð áû áûë ñîâñåì äðóãèì - äóìàþ ëèïó÷êà+öåïè, à òàê îò Êðûëàòñêîãî íà Áåëîðóññêóþ åçäèòü è ðàç â íåäåëþ äî ãèïåðìàðêåòà - ïîïðîáóþ âñåñåçîíêó ïîêà..</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 12:21</pubDate>
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                    <title>Re: Âûáîð çèìíèõ øèí íà LX 470</title>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 09:10&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;pazl ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;íà ðàçíûõ ìàøèíàõ åçäèë è íà ëèïó÷êå è íà øèïàõ, ïåðåøåë íà ëèïó÷êó(âñå ìàøèíû), êîãäà óðàáîòàë å211 íà øèïàõ îá çàáîð òàì(ãäå íà ëèïó÷êå òî÷íî áû îñòàíîâèëñÿ). à ñ ëõ ó ìåíÿ ìîñêîâñêèé ýêñïåðèìåíò îíà ùà íà H689 - ïîêà åçæó - êàê ïî÷óþ ÷òî &quot;ñêîëüçêî&quot; - îáóþñü â çèìó, ìå÷óñü íà Õàêêàïåëèòó Ð ÑÓÂ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;èíòåðåñíî ãäå òàêîå ìåñòî ÷òî øèïû íå ïîìîãëè à &quot;ëèïó÷êà&quot; òî÷íî ñðàáîòàëà áû. ß ìîãó ðàññêàçàòü îáðàòíóþ èñòîðèþ ãîäà 4 íàçàä åõàë çèìîé ïî Ëåíèíãðàäêå â Ìîñêâó íà Ïåäæåðî 3 íà íå øèïîâàííîé ðåçèíå (òèïà î÷åíü çèìíåé) ñî ñêîðîñòüþ íå áîëüøå 30 êì/÷, à íà áîðòó æåíà è äâîå ìàëåíüêèõ äåòåé. Òàêóþ áåøåíóþ ñêîðîñòü óäàëîñü ðàçâèòü èìåííî èç çà ðåçèíû, ìàøèíó íåñëî ïî äîðîãå, êàê ùåïêó â ðàçíûå ñòîðîíû, ðóëü ñàì ïî ñåáå ìàøèíà ñàìà ïî ñåáå. À âñåãî òî íåìíîãî ïîäìîðîçèëî ïîä âå÷åð äà ïîøåë ñíåã. Êàêàÿ èìåííî ðåçèíà áûëà íå ïîìíþ, íî êàê ìíå êàæåòñÿ &quot;ëèïó÷êè&quot; ýòî îáû÷íàÿ íå øèïîâàííóþ ðåçèíà ñ çèìíèì ðèñóíêîì ïðîòåêòîðà + î÷åíü õîðîøàÿ è äîðîãàÿ ðåêëàìà, êàê ðàñòâîðèìûé àñïèðèí ñ êðàñèâûì íàçâàíèåì çà 500 ðóáëåé è òàêîé æå íàø îáû÷íûé àñïèðèí â ïà÷êå çà 25 ðóáëåé. Ñàì åçæó íà Bridgestone Ice Cruiser ïðîáëåì âîîáùå íèêàêèõ è ïî ãîðîäó è çà íèì è ïî ñíåæíîé öåëèíå (ïðîâåðÿë!).</description>
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                    <pubDate>Âñ Äåê 04, 2011 09:10</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ïò Äåê 02, 2011 19:06&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  íà ðàçíûõ ìàøèíàõ åçäèë è íà ëèïó÷êå è íà øèïàõ, ïåðåøåë íà ëèïó÷êó(âñå ìàøèíû), êîãäà óðàáîòàë å211 íà øèïàõ îá çàáîð òàì(ãäå íà ëèïó÷êå òî÷íî áû îñòàíîâèëñÿ). à ñ ëõ ó ìåíÿ ìîñêîâñêèé ýêñïåðèìåíò îíà ùà íà H689 - ïîêà åçæó - êàê ïî÷óþ ÷òî &quot;ñêîëüçêî&quot; - îáóþñü â çèìó, ìå÷óñü íà Õàêêàïåëèòó Ð ÑÓÂ</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ïò Äåê 02, 2011 19:06</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ïò Äåê 02, 2011 16:29&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  Øèïû çàïðåùåíû â åâðîïå ñ èõ ìÿãêèìè çèìàìè. Çàïðåùåíû ïîòîìó ÷òî ðàçðóøàþò àñôàëüò. Äëÿ åâðîïû è øèíû äðóãèå, ïî õàðàêòåðèñòèêàì áîëüøå ïîõîæèå íà âñåñåçîíêó, à íå íà çèìíèå. âîò èíòåðåñíûé òåñò ñðàâíåíèå ðàçíûõ òèïîâ çèìíèõ øèí._http://www.autoreview.ru/_archive/section/detail.php?ELEMENT_ID=117343&amp;SECTION_ID=5183&lt;br /&gt;
Ñàì åæó íà õàêå 4, äî ýòî ãî áûë áðèäæ DM-Z3. Âîò ÿ íà áðèäæå ïóãàëñÿ íåñêîëüêî ðàç, êîãäà íàäî îñòàíîâèòüñÿ è íå ìîæåøü, ÷òî íà ëüäó, ÷òî íà ñíåãó, ÷òî íà àñôàëüòå. À ïî ïîâîäó òîãî, ÷òî øèïû ìåøàþò òîðìîçèòü ýòî ôèãíÿ îò ïðîäàâöîâ, íàéäèòå òåñòû è ïîñìîòðèòå.</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ïò Äåê 02, 2011 16:29</pubDate>
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                  Äîáàâëåíî: Ïò Äåê 02, 2011 15:51&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;	&lt;address&gt;REUTMEN ïèñàë(à):&lt;/address&gt;	&lt;span class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt; øèïû ìîãóò çà çèìó ïðèãîäèòüñÿ îäèí ðàç, íî ïîìîãóò!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;Ìîãóò íàîáîðîò íàâðåäèòü,åñëè ïîïàëñÿ ó÷àñòîê áåç ëüäà...Íà àñôàëüòå øèïû ñêîðåå äàæå âðåäíû, ÷åì áåñïîëåçíû... Íå ñëó÷àéíî ïðèìåíåíèå øèïîâ êîå-ãäå îãðàíè÷åíî, à òî è çàïðåùåíî (òàì, ïðàâäà, è çèìû ìàëîñíåæíûå). Øèïû îòíèìàþò ïëîùàäü ó ïÿòíà êîíòàêòà ïðîòåêòîðà ñ àñôàëüòîì... ïðè ýêñòðåííîì òîðìîæåíèè ñ 80 êì/÷ íà àñôàëüòå øèïîâàííûå øèíû ïðîèãðûâàþò îáû÷íûì 5-6%.</description>
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                    <pubDate>Ïò Äåê 02, 2011 15:51</pubDate>
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